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Monday, May 13 2019

Flat Earth Playlists

Here are some playlists from various people, highlighting the best flat earth videos.

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Wednesday, April 24 2019

Zetetic Cosmogony: Earth not a Globe

Lots of good information about the flat earth. Published 1865.

Earth Not a Globe (Samuel Rowbothan).pdf

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Sunday, April 21 2019

Peer Reviewed "Science"

A lot of people have asked for peer reviewed science to back up flat earth. Take a look at the actual state of peer review "science".

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Thursday, April 18 2019

Outreach Spot near Dallas Museum of Art

We poll people on whether they think the Earth is Flat or a Globe. We usually wait for them to approach us, but sometimes we ask them out loud if they are looking at our signs for a while. People walk past us coming to and from the park and museum. It leads to many fun interactions. Kids love to put down their answer. Some people laugh. Some people are disgusted at the mere idea. We have many great short conversations and about once an hour, we have a really long, great discussion over wide ranging topics.

We are located at the corner of N. Harwood Street and Woodall Rodgers Freeway between the:

Dallas Museum of Art https://goo.gl/maps/873PRCRjVSt7Fteg9

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Klyde Warren Park https://goo.gl/maps/UNzJYZprKnxJH7SU8


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We have a vendor buddy (recently converted to Flat Earth by his brother) near us selling Italian Ice.

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Street preachers and other groups are sometimes there.

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We have been going on Saturday or Sunday afternoons. In the summer, the park gets busier later in the day. The museum closes at 5pm.
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We park in the Trammell Crow Center (https://goo.gl/maps/NoVhP7zS6Z6B1Zt97) at this entrance: https://goo.gl/maps/Y5a5Jz9GM4q1GDXV6 They charge $5 per day on weekends and after hours. When we leave after 4pm, the attendant is gone and the day is free. It is 1 block walk to our spot.


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Sunday, February 3 2019

The Firmament in the Bible

We are looking into one of the many aspects of the evidence of the flat earth. That aspect is the firmament/dome. The verses we are looking at are: Amos 9:6; Job 37:18; and Job 38:10-13.

Amos 9:6 says,

“He who builds His layers in the sky, and has founded His vaulted dome on the earth; Who calls for the waters of the sea, and pours them out on the face of the earth – the LORD is His name.”


Without knowing it, you have read about this “dome” before in the Bible. It is known as the firmament. Without the firmament, there would be no waters above (i.e. nothing between us and heaven), and the seas would be pouring over the edge of the world. A dome would not be possible on a globe; therefore, the earth must be flat.

Job 37:18 says,

“With Him have you spread out the skies, strong as a cast metal mirror?”


In Genesis, when God made the firmament He called it “sky”. If the sky is “strong as a cast metal mirror” then it certainly makes sense that the sky is a dome set right on top of us like a glass bowl. And we most certainly wouldn’t be flying through it in a rocket. This backs up the dome mentioned in Amos 9:6, again proving that the earth cannot be a globe.

Job 38:10-13 says,

“When I fixed my limit for it, and set bars and doors; when I said ‘This far you may come, but no farther, and here your proud waves must stop!’ Have you commanded the morning since your days began, and caused the dawn to know its place, that it might take hold of the ends of the earth, and the wicked be shaken out of it?”


These verses say that He set a “limit” to the earth, that the seas can go to a certain place and can proceed no farther, that the earth has “ends”; yet, people still say the earth is a globe. In order for these verses to be true, the earth must be flat, and there must be a certain place where the earth ends. That place is where the dome meets the earth. The waters can go until they meet the wall. The earth can proceed up to the “vaulted dome” that is “strong as a cast metal mirror”. Again these verses prove that there must be a dome on top of a flat earth.

Not just these verses, but many others in the Bible prove that the earth is flat. We will continue looking into more verses on different evidences of the flat earth at another time. Scripture says the earth is flat. Thank you.

The Biblical Cosmologist

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Some thoughts from a young Biblical Cosmologist

Revelation 20:9 says

“They went up onto the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city.”

We are looking into the word “breadth”. The word “breadth” comes from the greek word Platos which also comes from the greek word Platus. This means “spreads out- flat.” Therefore Revelation 20:9 says that the earth is flat.

But, since this part of Revelation is talking about the battle of Armageddon, some argue that it is saying that this one specific place is flat, therefore still allowing for there to be curvature to the earth. But, Job 38:18 says,

“Have you comprehended the breadth of the earth? Tell me if you know all this.”

This is the LORD talking to Job in reference to the earth. Not just one small place on the earth but the whole earth. Therefore saying that the earth is, “spread out-flat”. Scripture says the earth is flat.
-The Biblical Cosmologist

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Wednesday, January 23 2019

Answering Kevin Hogwood

Kevin put out a thoughtful video about debunking the flat earth. He basically presented what flat earthers actually believe and presented some reasonable arguments for the globe.

Kevin's Proofs:
North star/southern cross
Eclipses not possible on flat earth
24 hr day at Antarctica
NASA/SpaceX videos
Seen satellites and space station go over
How do we see hurricanes coming --weather satellites
How do you get satellite tv
Ships in ocean
Gospel or flat earth more important

Kevin's Videos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlIh0MGt5_w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBUydyl5dIg

I will try and show an answer to all the issues Kevin presented, in no particular order. Mostly others have already answered these things, so I'm pointing to them. One thing Kevin brought up in his second video was ships going over the horizon. I did this a couple years ago at the coast in South Carolina. I was watching the big container ships going out to see. I was on the beach, just a few feet above sea level. I could watch the ships going way out and disappear. I picked one that had words across the bottom with a certain proportion of ship visible below the words. It had a nice straight line at the bottom to compare to. So I watched it go out to sea. When it was no longer visible, I used my binoculars to bring it back into vision, which shouldn't be possible if it has gone over the curve. I could see that it still had the same proportion of the ship visible beneath the words on the side of the ship.
Here is a different pastor talking about flat earth and documents related to satellites.

Satellites, NASA photos, and much more
Government document say that satellites are high altitude balloons. Weather info is also obtained by balloons, btw. Dean Odle talks about the importance of Biblical Cosmology -- it is bringing people to Christ!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEN9NW6qjCw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6qxhqI6280

More on Satellites
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFd-ttWUmJ4

North Star/Southern Cross
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOo0knx7Rk4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAp5aKuz24M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GRnkHZgqEs

Eclipses
Solar eclipse doesn't work on globe model. I don't know what is eclipsing the moon on lunar eclipse, but it's easy to show that what the "scientists" are telling us isn't true.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgPzqjm5Wog&list=PL1eegppAgUw_ZDSBsIxfMuYOLdxwc_PuK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HC4DxKQqLgw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARqRUTljWB4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0oGhkN4BBE

NASA/Space X Fraud
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvA-BUyP1Qo&list=PL1eegppAgUw_ffgly_8Afo1EydwnTo1jM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZT8ViN3sk5A&list=PL1eegppAgUw9bQZ6_8eMcyw03dNJ6tnQq

24 Hour Day in Antarctica
The time lapse videos they give us for Antarctica are obviously pieced together. They never show 24 hr sun.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Mdg5k-WBFw

Flat Earth and the Bible
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNiwnXXXc2o

What Dean Odle and Nathan Roberts say is absolutely true: what's important is people coming to Christ, the creator. This is just a tool to help people find the true God. When the Russians first went into space, the first thing they said was, "we don't see any God out here." That's the agenda -- to take people away from God. Jesus said He was the truth, so I don't see how the truth can be unimportant. None of this matters if people don't come to the whole truth, that God came down to earth, lived a perfect sinless life as a man, Jesus, and died on the cross to pay for our sins, was raised from the dead after the third day so that we could be reconciled to God.

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Monday, January 21 2019

Impersonations of famous Flat Earthers

Here is No Lies Domed Skies latest video impersonating many Flat Earth youtubers

She is really funny

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Saturday, January 19 2019

My Favorite Flat Earth Proofs

My Favorite Proofs of the Flat Earth

1. The Bible -- the references to the earth make more sense with a flat, non-moving, enclosed earth than a spinning globe. The men who wrote down the Bible under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, the men who walked and talked with God, they all thought the earth was flat, enclosed, stationary.

2. The Atmosphere - Boyle's Law says that pressure of a gas has an inverse relationship to the volume of the container PV=nRT . So say you have a box containing a fixed number of molecules of gas and it has a certain pressure. If you put it in a much larger box, the pressure will go down. Say you have a infinite size box. The pressure would go down to nothing. Now consider the supposed vacuum of space. Here we have what is supposed to be an infinite space with virtually no gas in it -- no pressure. Now consider our atmosphere connected to this infinite vacuum of space. The principle here holds that our air molecules should bounce out into space and be dispersed evenly across the enormous expanse of space.

I spent many years working on vacuum systems at Genentech. Any leak in the system is going to want to violently equalize the pressure between your vacuum chamber and the outside air. It can be a pinhole leak (and usually was!). Someone once said that nature abhors a vacuum. It's true!

The scientists try and tell us that gravity holds our atmosphere in. Note that in Boyle's law, gravity is never considered. The smallest butterfly can move our atmosphere overcoming the supposed pull of gravity. The smallest breath from the smallest child can move the air. But we are supposed to believe that gravity is holding it down? It makes more sense that we are in an enclosed system.

3, The Curve -- Scientists tell us that you can calculate the curve of the earth at 8 inches per mile squared. So let's do the math, shall we? Let us consider a view of 5 miles. It's easier to see this over a body of water since no typography gets in the way. So 5x25=125 inches which is a little over 10 ft. So if you are at ground level and observe a boat going away from you....you can watch it disappear over the curve, right? But if you take binoculars or a telescope or some such, amazingly, you can bring it back into vision, as far as the optics and atmospheric conditions will allow. If you bring your boat back into vision when it's 5 miles out, 10 feet of it should be below the curve, but this doesn't happen. This is easier to do across a lake where google can tell you what the distances you see are. Test it yourself! We did.

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Saturday, December 22 2018

Does the Moon Give Off Cold Light?

Genesis 1:16 God made the two great lights, the greater light to govern the day, and the lesser light to govern the night; He made the stars also. 17 God placed them in the expanse of the heavens to give light on the earth, 18 and to govern the day and the night, and to separate the light from the darkness; and God saw that it was good. 19 There was evening and there was morning, a fourth day.

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Friday, December 7 2018

Flat Earth Family Podcast Episode 1 December 8th 2018

Time for our 1st Podcast

We will answer some questions we have gotten.


Have you ever taken a science (physics/astronomy) class?


Why don't you Flat Earthers go to the edge?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antarctic_Treaty_System


Why does NASA and governments lie?

I guess we can cover this one each podcast.


D Marble has 5 potential answers for this question:


Eric Dubay:



"Finally we shall place the Sun himself at the center of the Universe." - Nicolaus Copernicus

This leads us to the question "why did it start 500 years ago?". It was invented by the newly formed Jesuit order, which was a response to the Protestant Reformation. Why?

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Saturday, November 17 2018

M5M Media Coverage of the Flat Earth Convention in Denver Colorado 2018

Here are some various main stream media articles about FE2018:


Before:

https://www.denverpost.com/2018/10/29/colorado-flat-earth-conference-denver/


https://denver.cbslocal.com Bob Knodel is in this one :)

https://koaa.com/news/2018/10/23/flat-earth-international-conference-coming-to-denver/


During:

Scientists have long since determined that the Earth is a sphere. It is not up for debate in any scientific circles.


https://www.denverpost.com/2018/11/15/denver-flat-earth-conference/

Plenty of people dismiss flat-Earthers right away. But for non-flat-Earthers curious to know what these people are all about, the conference is a gateway to understanding their beliefs.


https://www.westword.com/news/gathering-in-denver-flat-earthers-say-theyre-not-crazy-11009761

https://www.nbc26.com/news/national/hundreds-of-flat-earth-believers-gather-at-denver-conference

https://kdvr.com/2018/11/15/hundreds-of-flat-earth-believers-gather-in-denver-for-conference/


After:

This one has some quotes from me:

https://coloradosun.com/2018/11/20/flat-earth-convention-denver-post-truth/

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https://whnt.com/2018/11/18/hundreds-of-flat-earth-believers-gather-in-colorado-for-conference/

www.theguardian.com
Nathan Robert's family :)


One thing we noticed is that many reporters came into the conference with the talking point of how Flat Earth breaks up families. I guess this is one of the scare tactics they will use for a while.

If you become a flatearther you will be subject to ridicule and lose your family. Don't be silly and have to recant like Kyrie Irving. Your only friends will be other tinfoil hat wearing cult members.

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Monday, November 5 2018

4th Flat Earth Meetup in Waxahachie TX November 4th 2018

We held our first Meetup at the Cotton Patch in Waxahachie.

https://www.facebook.com/thecottonginwaxahachie/

We had 10 of us there today, with our first repeat visitor Grant.

Neal has lots of room for us. There is room for the children to have fun.

Beforehand I went to Walmart in town and found 19 people who said the earth is flat. This is the first time "Flat" was the majority.

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Neal will be there next Sunday at 2pm November 11th.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/299840034140835/

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FlatEarthMeetupSouthofDallas/info

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Monday, October 8 2018

Researching Flat Earth? Start here

Here are some basics to start your research. Please note that none of us are associated with the flat earth society, nor do we find it a credible source of information. There are a lot of landmines and much disinformation out there.

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Flat Earth Evangelism at Auburn University

20181007_173932.jpg After Skyfall 2018 conference, we went out with a group of people to talk to people about flat earth. Before we even got there, a young man stopped us and said, "I believe the earth is a globe. Convince me otherwise. Go." So we talked to him and his group for a while. He looked rather concerned, like 'oh my, this is making sense.' They had to go, so we left him with a card to look us up.

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Thursday, October 4 2018

Skyfall 2018 Conference

Great fun at Skyfall 2018!

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Tuesday, September 25 2018

Flat Earth Meetups

This was my original meetup blog entry (updated Sept 30th, 2018), the new static page is:

http://flatearthfamily.com/index.php?pages/Flat-Earth-Meetups


Here is a list I found: http://www.theflatearthguide.com/meetups.html I am checking to see when the last update was.


Playlist of Mark Sargent's meetup promo videos from 2015 until now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5NAZt67LLY&list=PLltxIX4B8_UT2uwtD_kwepX6auM189Vqk


You can find some on Meetup.com, but it is not as easy as you would think.

If you go to this topic: https://www.meetup.com/topics/flatearth/

you will get the flat earth society .... typical. But you can find some. There are others on meetup.com that are not under this topic.


AZ

Phoenix - https://www.meetup.com/Flat-Earth-Phoenix/



CA

Anaheim - https://www.meetup.com/StreetWearAddicts-Flat-Earth-Meet-Up-Get-Together/

Costa Mesa - https://www.meetup.com/Costa-Mesa-Flat-Earth-Meetup/

Los Angeles - https://www.meetup.com/None-Dare-Call-it-Conspiracy/

Martinez - https://www.meetup.com/Flat-Earth-Bay-Area/

Orange - https://www.meetup.com/Orange-County-Flat-Earth-Meetup/

Palmdale - https://www.meetup.com/Wake-up-SoCal/

Sacramento - 916-872-7282 or email Michelle at mgentz88@gmail.com

San Diego - https://www.meetup.com/Flat-Earth-San-Diego/

Santa Monica - https://www.meetup.com/itsflat/

SoCal - https://www.facebook.com/groups/1200307816740726/?ref=br_rs They seem to do things in many places like FlatSmacking Hollywood or the Griffith Observatory



CO

Colorado Springs - https://www.meetup.com/Colorado-Springs-Flat-Earth-Meetup/

Denver - https://www.meetup.com/FE5280-Denver-Flat-Earth-Community/

Fort Collins - This one has been going for years. I have been to 1 meeting. It was Bob and Camy Knoedle's first one that night also. :) https://www.meetup.com/Flat-Earth-Meetup/



FL

Jacksonville - https://www.meetup.com/Jacksonville-Flat-Earth-Meetup/



HI

Lihue - https://www.meetup.com/HawaiiFlatEarth/



IL

Chicago - https://www.meetup.com/FE_Chicago/



KS

Emporia - Jeff Adams picassopaintservice@gmail.com

Topeka - Old Chicago Pizzeria 1231 SW Wanamaker Road Topeka KS 66604 bamasamurai@hotmail.com Thursday, July 19 2018 one time?



LA

New Orleans - Jason Clark 985-500-4008



MD

Potomac - https://www.meetup.com/meetup-group-SfOgOhEQ/



MN

Minneapolis - jswifty1981@gmail.com



NC

King - https://www.meetup.com/King-Flat-Earth-Meetup/



NH

Nashua - Joshbolieiro@rocketmail.com (related Future of Flat Earth, Flat Earth New England, and Nasalies.org down in Boston)



NM

Albuquerque - https://www.meetup.com/Biblical-Flat-Earth-Believers-Explorers-Experimenters/



NV

Las Vegas - https://www.meetup.com/Las-Vegas-Flat-Earth-and-Philosophy-Meetup/



NY

New York - https://www.meetup.com/New-York-Flat-Earth-Meetup/

Syracuse - https://www.meetup.com/Syracuse-Zetetic-Investigation-Meetup/



OK

Tulsa - https://www.meetup.com/Tulsa-Conspiracy-Meetup/


OH

Cleveland - https://www.meetup.com/Cleveland-Flat-Earth-Meetup/



OR

Eugene - https://www.meetup.com/Lane-County-Flat-Earth-Research/

Portland - https://www.meetup.com/FLAT-EARTH-OREGON/


PA

Manheim - https://www.meetup.com/Flat_Earth/

Philly - https://www.facebook.com/flatearthpa/



SC

Spartanburg-Greenville, SC at Chuy's - 1034 Woodruff Rd, Greenville, SC 29607 anyone can contact Jack by text 864-347-6225



TN

Chattanooga - https://www.facebook.com/Flat-Earth-meetup-Chattanooga-Tn-325134801580531/ and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FOAapa_O6A



TX

Corsicana - another of our groups so contact us :)

Huntsville - https://www.meetup.com/Huntsville-Biblical-Flat-Earth-Society-Meetup/

San Antonio - Matthew Thunder 210-535-3355

Southlake - https://www.meetup.com/Flat-Earth-Travel-Society/

Waxahachie - That is our meeting, so join our group https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FlatEarthMeetupSouthofDallas/info



WA

Auburn - https://www.meetup.com/flat-earth-fellowship/

Seattle - https://www.meetup.com/meetup-group-BLJNMUXz/



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Friday, September 21 2018

South Dallas Flat Earth Meeting

The first meetup is on Sunday Sept 23rd at Braums in Waxahachie, TX. 1 to 2 pm

https://goo.gl/maps/YKxWgxasg3z

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Monday, September 10 2018

Flat Earth or Globe survey results for September 9th in SLC

Kat and I stood on a street corner again and asked some of the people passing by "Do you think the earth is flat or a globe?".

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We had many good conversations with homeless people. But sometimes the demons inside them get really angry with us.


Some people pass by and are amused by our sign. Some find it annoying. One guy yelled from his car that I was a moron and I was making people stupid by asking this question.


Some families rush past us, like they are trying to avoid the crazy people. :)


We also had a higher percentage of foreign tourists, because it was a quiet Sunday. We talked to people from many countries. They were more reluctant to answer our question, so we just talked about other things.


We also met a friendly lady from Massachusetts (originally from OK), who said she has been to 54 countries and knows it is a globe. She said she can see the earths curve when she flies.


We also had a UofU student who ran across the intersection to take a picture with us and is very excited about the idea of Flat Earth and what that means to our place in the world.


Here is the one Kat was holding:

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Here is a picture of our final results:

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  • Flat Earth - 6
  • some of each - 1
  • Globe - 36

and a variety that we posted on the back side:

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So this time we are way above our usual 5% for Flat Earth.


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Tuesday, September 4 2018

Is the Flat Earth a conspiracy?

I found an interesting website today.

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